Eddie B 9:33 Sun Oct 15
Toni Martinez
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Scored a hattrick today for the U23s.
With the Geordie bumper out on Friday, surely he deserves a place on the bench, or will our tactical genius stick Ayew up front.
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Vexed
10:42 Sun Oct 15
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Better than Carroll, Sakho, Hernandez or Antonio?
If not there's not a lot of point.
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Sven Roeder
10:47 Sun Oct 15
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Deserves a bench spot.
Especially if Pea and Sahko start and we need a late striking replacement option.
Or Sahko’s back goes after 10 mins
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happygilmore
10:56 Sun Oct 15
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http://www.westhamonline.net/forum_flat.php?8873370||1||
Topic pretty much covered in earlier thread.
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Eddie B
11:05 Sun Oct 15
Re: Toni Martinez
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We have no other strikers, he's just scored a hattrick against Manchester United's reserves. He definitely deserves a place on the bench.
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Vexed
11:18 Sun Oct 15
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Manchester United reserves you say? Oh I've entirely changed my opinion on the situation.
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Private Dancer
6:30 Mon Oct 16
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How old is he? I'd say he's close to it's now or never for him. Very difficult for these youngsters now, the chances of him becoming a regular PL striker are probably no higher than 5%
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Sven Roeder
7:55 Mon Oct 16
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He is 20
About the age Harry Kane was when he couldn’t get a kick for Millwall’s reserves.
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Private Dancer
8:08 Mon Oct 16
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Kane is an exception to the rule.
I doubt he will kick around in the stiffs for another 3 years and then burst onto the PL scene? If he's good he needs to start getting blooded soon. He's been impressing for a few years now so he must be wondering what else he has to do to get a chance.
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11MDE
8:40 Mon Oct 16
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He was sitting a few rows back from me at the Swansea game and looked totally miserable for the entire match. Can't blame, poor sod.
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Willtell
8:57 Mon Oct 16
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Every time I have seen the lad he looks like a lower division striker to me but what do I know? I could be wrong of course but he certainly shouldn't be on the 1st team bench yet. That I'm sure of...
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terry-h
10:30 Mon Oct 16
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He took his goals well,but it's hard to predict how he will perform against PL opposition when not given the chance. He didn't look all that in the pre-season matches,but who did really?
The only Man U players who I recognised were Luke Shaw and James Wilson, and I don't think Mourinho has them in mind for his first team. The gulf between PL and u-23 is gigantic.
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Dr Moose
10:31 Mon Oct 16
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You've answered your own question Eddie.
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Razzle
10:37 Mon Oct 16
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Watched him at Oxford - unless something has dramatically changed he is championship at best.
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HAMMERAMA
10:48 Mon Oct 16
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What Martinez gives is work rate,a target man and the knack of being in the right place at the right time. What he does not do is beat players and is not the quickest over the ground. That said I would be surprised if he would get any starts in the Premiership but would be a good plan B player if you were going to play 1 upfront to see a game out.
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yngwies Cat
10:52 Mon Oct 16
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Will never know his potential unless he gets a fuckin go.
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Willtell
10:52 Mon Oct 16
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Hate to disagree there HAMMERAMA. Martinez wasn't a worker when I saw him. Nowhere near as mobile as AC...
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andyd12345
10:55 Mon Oct 16
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His spell at Oxford probably woke a few people up to the fact that he's not going to be the next Harry Kane. There's a chance he could be a late developer, but if he cant stand out in League One at 19, he isn't going to be good enough for the Premier League at 20. He's a classic example of someone that should be out on loan somewhere.
Bag 20 in League One and we've got a player on our hands.
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the exile
11:53 Mon Oct 16
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He clearly is a good finisher so all he can do is keep banging them in. I would have little hesitation in giving him a chance if, say, Carroll and Sakho were both injured or suspended. Decent back-up but will need to take any chances he gets with both hands.
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Northern Sold
11:55 Mon Oct 16
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Eddie.... it's DURHAM Bumpers.... not Geordie Bumpers... watch McVicar... all will be explained on there...
Quick march...
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terry-h
3:21 Mon Oct 16
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SEANI Maguire is a striker who we possibly didn't persevere with. After being released a few years ago, he returned to Ireland,started banging in the goals again,and is now back in England with Preston North End. On Saturday at Fulham,he assisted Preston's first goal,then scored a lovely goal himself before injury finished his afternoon after half an hour. He's a big favourite with the home fans apparently.
I seem to remember Mr Polite/pee wee was also a big fan when he wore claret and blue.
GOOD OLD SEANI. ( Don't forget his Irish manager described him as the Irish Lionel Messi!)
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